english
nederlands
Indymedia NL
Independent Media Centre of the Netherlands
Indymedia NL is an independent free communication organisation. Indymedia offers an alternative approach to the news by using an open publishing method for text, images, video and audio.
> contact > search > archive > help > join > publish news > open newswire > disclaimer > chat
Search

 
All Words
Any Word
Contains Media:
Only images
Only video
Only audio

Dossiers
Agenda
CHAT!
LINKS

European NewsReal

MDI's complaint against Indymedia.nl
Courtcase Deutsche Bahn vs. Indymedia.nl
Topics
anti-fascisme / racisme
europa
feminisme
gentechnologie
globalisering
kunst, cultuur en muziek
media
militarisme
natuur, dier en mens
oranje
vrijheid, repressie & mensenrechten
wereldcrisis
wonen/kraken
zonder rubriek
Events
G8
Oaxaca
Schinveld
Schoonmakers-Campagne
Help
Tips for newbies
A short intro into Indymedia NL
The policy of Indymedia NL
How to join?
Donate
Support Indymedia NL with donations!
Lawsuits cost a lot of money, we appreciate every (euro)cent you can spare!

You can also direct your donation to Dutch bank account 94.32.153 on behalf of Stichting Vrienden van Indymedia, Amsterdam (IBAN: NL41 PSTB 0009 4321 53)
Indymedia Network

www.indymedia.org

Projects
print
radio
satellite tv
video

Africa
ambazonia
canarias
estrecho / madiaq
kenya
nigeria
south africa

Canada
hamilton
london, ontario
maritimes
montreal
ontario
ottawa
quebec
thunder bay
vancouver
victoria
windsor
winnipeg

East Asia
burma
jakarta
japan
manila
qc

Europe
alacant
andorra
antwerpen
armenia
athens
austria
barcelona
belarus
belgium
belgrade
bristol
bulgaria
croatia
cyprus
estrecho / madiaq
euskal herria
galiza
germany
grenoble
hungary
ireland
istanbul
italy
la plana
liege
lille
madrid
malta
marseille
nantes
netherlands
nice
norway
oost-vlaanderen
paris/île-de-france
poland
portugal
romania
russia
scotland
sverige
switzerland
thessaloniki
toulouse
ukraine
united kingdom
valencia
west vlaanderen

Latin America
argentina
bolivia
brasil
chiapas
chile
chile sur
colombia
ecuador
mexico
peru
puerto rico
qollasuyu
rosario
santiago
tijuana
uruguay
valparaiso

Oceania
adelaide
aotearoa
brisbane
burma
darwin
jakarta
manila
melbourne
oceania
perth
qc
sydney

South Asia
india
mumbai

United States
arizona
arkansas
atlanta
austin
baltimore
big muddy
binghamton
boston
buffalo
charlottesville
chicago
cleveland
colorado
columbus
danbury, ct
dc
hampton roads, va
hawaii
houston
hudson mohawk
idaho
ithaca
kansas city
la
madison
maine
miami
michigan
milwaukee
minneapolis/st. paul
new hampshire
new jersey
new mexico
new orleans
north carolina
north texas
nyc
oklahoma
omaha
philadelphia
pittsburgh
portland
richmond
rochester
rogue valley
saint louis
san diego
san francisco
san francisco bay area
santa barbara
santa cruz, ca
seattle
tallahassee-red hills
tampa bay
tennessee
united states
urbana-champaign
utah
vermont
western mass
worcester

West Asia
armenia
beirut
israel
palestine

Topics
biotech

Process
discussion
fbi/legal updates
indymedia faq
mailing lists
process & imc docs
tech
volunteer
Credits
This site is produced by volunteers using free software where possible.

The system we use is available from:mir.indymedia.de
an alternative is available from: active.org.au/doc

Thanks to indymedia.de and mir-coders for creating and sharing mir!

Contact:
info @ indymedia.nl
Nederlandse 9-11 getuige gedeporteerd uit USA
World Wide Watch - 11.04.2004 21:42

Hopsicker: Fed/Gov Deporting Key 911 Witnesses I.N.S. Deporting 'Magic Dutch Boy' Rudi Dekkers. "The I.N.S. is acting to place the prime suspect in a wider-ranging 9/11 conspiracy investigation out of the reach of the Independent Investigation."

 http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=4724

De Nederlander Rudi Dekkers, bekend met wat vliegtuigkapers van die vliegschool, wordt Amerika uitgewezen.
Volgens de schrijver om zodoende het komende onderzoek en hearings te ondermijnen.

Zie verder artikel met veel info.
 
supplements
 
11.04.2004 21:53

Oeps...
Artikel lijkt iets te suggereren in de richting van:
It where the Evil Dutch Worldwide conpirors...
 
11.04.2004 22:04

 http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/031403_dekkers.html
"
Feb. 17, 2003 - Mohamed Atta was twice seen with flight school owner Rudi Dekkers in Venice, FL. during the final month before he crashed American Airlines Flight 11 into the North Tower of the World Trade Center, directly contradicting Dekker's account of his relationship with the terrorist ringleader. ..."

Meer connectie 9-11 met NL -high society 
11.04.2004 22:20

RUDI DEKKERS DITCHES HELICOPTER IN WATER OFF FORT MYERS, FL. Is someone trying to kill the Magic Dutch Boys?
 http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0301/S00139.htm

Jackson Stephens active in Venice, FL
 http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:xLBF6tK-jzsJ:www.onlinejournal.com/archive/11-25-01_Hopsicker-printable.pdf+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
"
Jackson Stephens, a name often linked with America’s super-secret National Security Agency, has been an influential presence for several decades in the tiny town that served as port of entry into U.S. flight and even military training for the terrorist cadre implicated in the Sept 11 attacks..."
+ veel meer info over de vuile spelletjes van J.S. en met welke personen hij in het verleden samenzweerde.
(dit bericht kon ik slechts via de cache van Google bereiken)

"...
Most notably, Jackson Stephens has already been named in one intelligence-related aviation scandal: the gun-running and cocaine smuggling at Mena, Arkansas, during the 1980s that was behind Iran-Contra and Whitewater.
..."

BINGO!

Daar was Clinton gouverneur = Rhodes Scholar society = British connection; Rothschild, Britse Koningshuis, Pamela Harriman, Wesley Clark, Holbrooke, George Soros EN BEATRIX EN BERNHARD.

Wie achterhaalt eventjes de Curriculum Vitae en levensloop van deze Rudi Dekkers? Ik heb zo'n vermoeden...

CIA & Pakistaanse dienst ISI betrokken 
11.04.2004 22:38

 http://www.libertythink.com/2003_02_16_archives.html
"from the Chicago Tribune
HAMBURG, Germany - (KRT) - Nearly two years before the Sept. 11 hijackings, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency began persistent efforts to recruit as an informer a Syrian-born Hamburg businessman with links to al-Qaida and the key hijackers, the Chicago Tribune has learned.
..."

 http://indymedia.nl/nl/2002/11/7540.shtml

Jabber - 24.11.2002 18:43
"...
- De $100.000, die aan de groep rond Mohammed Atta, voor verblijf en de vliegtrainingen, is overgemaakt vanuit Pakistan. De Pakistaanse inlichtingendienst ISI is hier bij betrokken. Er bestaan al jarenlang, innige banden van Pakistaanse leger en inlichtingen diensten met de Verenigde Staten. Er zijn mensen die beweren dat David Pearl, de journalist, is vermoord, omdat hij op het spoor van de bron van de bewuste $100.000 was gekomen. Uit zijn laatste artikelen blijkt inderdaad dat hij, in Pakistan, 11 september gerelateerde financiele bronnen natrok.
- Volgens de Duitse inlichtingendienst, werden Atta en co. al twee jaar voor de 11 september aanslagen, in Duitsland, geschaduwd door CIA en Mossad. De hierbij betrokken Mossad agenten zijn uitgewezen. Volgens de officiële lezing, zouden deze inlichtingendiensten Atta en co, zodra ze naar de VS verhuisden, uit het oog zijn verloren. Vreemd..
- Huffman Aviation, de vliegschool/onderhoudsbedrijf van o.a. de (oud?) Nederlander Rudi Dekkers, maakte in de periode voor 11 september gericht reclame in Duitsland. Rudi Dekkers beweerde, al vlak na 11 september, dat de door hem getrainde vligers, w.o. Atta, geen nattur talenten waren, en dat hij het onwaarschijnlijkk achtte dat in de korte periode, die resteerde voor 11 september, genoeg ervaring konden opdoen om op 11 september complexe manouvres uit te kunnen voeren. Bij het tweede bedrijf, waar weinig over bekend is, zouden de kapers, in peperdure Boeing simulatoren, verdere training hebben gehad. Rudi Dekkers, zegt dat het bewuste bedrijf geen vlieglicenties mag afgeven, en daarom moeilijk zijn apparatuur op normale wijze zou kunnen benutten.
- Er zijn een aantal gegevens, die met het officiële verhaal tegenstrijdig lijken, zoals de door, o.a. zijn Duitse professoren geclaimde zachtmoedige aard van Atta. Het ongeloof van zijn ouders etc. passen makkelijk in het alternatieve verhaal. Ook zijn er beweringen dat Atta regelmatig alcohol en zelfs cocaine zou hebben gebruikt en een Amerikaanse vriendin had met paars haar! Deze beweringen lijken tegenstrijdig met Islamitisch fundamentalistische karakter, die hij in Al Qaeda verband zou moeten hebben gehad.
..."
Politieuitje Rudi Dekkers? 
11.04.2004 22:45

 http://www.polizei-dertag.de/website_2001/pol_gaestebuch/guestbook.html

Danke Gerhard Auringer der Flensburger WasserschutzPolizei für den Tip auf diese hochinteressante Website. Auf alle Fälle viel Vergnügen an diesem Tage, und hoffentlich Mal gutes Wetter. Vielleicht schaue ich noch rein bei euch.

Alles gute

Rudi
Rudi Dekkers
Zeven, NiSa DE - 28.09.2001 um 09:34:15 (CEST)

Met een politieauto (Volkswagen Polo) kwamen wij op verzoek van de International Police Association naar Flensburg.
Een perfect programma werd ons geboden en DER TAG was inderdaad een dag die wij niet snel zullen vergeten.
Bedankt en tot volgende jaar.
Rienk Halma (National polizei Nederland)
George Medendorp (Region polizei Groningen - Nederland)
====================

Hmmm, een politieuitje van de Nederlandse politie in Duitsland.
Zou dit dezelfde Rudi Dekkers zijn?
 
11.04.2004 22:47

Rudi Dekkers
Zeven, NiSa DE - 28.09.2001 um 09:34:15 (CEST)
Meer contacten Nederland 
11.04.2004 22:56

 http://krant.telegraaf.nl/krant/archief/20020523/teksten/bin.alshehhi.amerikaanse.html
"...
Zelfmoordpiloot Marwan Alshehhi, die op 11 september het tweede toestel bestuurde dat het World Trade Center in New York verwoestte, blijkt in het voorjaar van 2001 in Nederland te zijn geweest.
...
Marwan Alshehhi (23) vertrok op 18 april vorig jaar van de internationale luchthaven in Miami naar Amsterdam. De terrorist keerde op 2 mei terug in Miami op een vlucht uit onze hoofdstad. Alshehhi verbleef samen met Mohammed Atta, de vermeende aanvoerder van de kapers, in Florida ter voorbereiding van de aanslagen. Het duo volgde in de zomer van 2000 vlieglessen bij de door Nederlander Rudi Dekkers geleide vliegschool Huffman Aviation in Venice, Florida.
..."
Acoord Rudi Dekkers met NL inlichtingendienst 
11.04.2004 23:11

 http://www.indymedia.nl/nl/2003/01/8790.shtml

met de volgende belangrijke reactie:

spin in een fraude web
_ - 26.02.2004 19:24

Vliegleraar kapers ontdook belastingen
 http://oud.refdag.nl/bui/011004bui09.html

Ruud a.k.a. Rudi Dekkers hield zich voor zijn vertrek naar de Verenigde Staten bezig met fraude praktijken. D.m.v. o.a. de BTW-carrousel-methode en andere oplichtings praktijken stal hij 7 miljoen gulden en sluisde deze door naar de Verenigde Staten.

Volgens, de advocaten van de gedupeerden, wordt normaal gesproken beslag gelegd op bezittingen van misdadigers in de V.S.. De Nederlandse overheid werkt in deze zaak echter niet mee.
==================

Zie artikel:

Het lijkt erop dat hij het op een accoordje heeft gegooid met een Nederlandse geheime dienst (c.q. vadertje Bernhard) die geregeld heeft dat er geen beslag op de verduisterde gelden zou worden gelegd.
Dat zijn standaard werkmethodes van 'diensten': jij bent fout geweest, dus aan jou de keuze; of je werkt voor ons, of je wordt hard aangepakt voor wat je gedaan hebt.
 
11.04.2004 23:23

'Rudi' is eigenlijk Ruud Dekkers.

Voordat hij naar de V.S. vertrok is hij veroordeeld voor oplichting en belastingfraude.

 http://oud.refdag.nl/bui/011004bui09.html
Veel meer info Rudi Dekkers 
11.04.2004 23:28

 http://www.spitfirelist.com/f405.html

"...
involvement of elements of the Rudi Dekkers flying school to drug trafficking
...
17. The article stresses the structural similarity of Atta’s German associates with the background of Andreas Strassmeir, alleged mastermind of the Oklahoma City bombing and associate of Timothy McVeigh. “ . . . Strassmeir’s father was once a top aide to German Chancellor Helmut Kohl; Atta’s German friends are all children of the German elite. But before delving further into Atta’s German connections, there were two other related developments in Florida last week. In the first, the former owner of the terror flight school in Venice, FL., Rudi Dekkers, was arrested last week on a single count of felony fraud, and booked into the Collier County jail in Naples, FL.” (Ibid.; p. 2.)
...
19. Is someone working to silence Dekkers and Kruithof? “ . . . Then, too Dekker’s helicopter crashed recently, while he was en route to a showdown meeting with partner Wally Hilliard over control of Huffman Aviation. In another freak coincidence, owner of the second Dutch-owned flight school at the Venice Airport, Arne Kruithof, also suffered a near-fatal aviation mishap last summer when his plane fell from a hundred feet in the air onto the runway of the Venice Airport. It appears as if both would be well-advised to stay away from open windows.” (Ibid.; pp. 2-3.)
...
26. One of the activities that may have been undertaken by the milieu of the “Flying Dutchmen” was drug-trafficking. “In point of fact, the revelation of the four additional terror suspects brings the current total of 9/11 cadre terrorists known to have been enrolled at flight schools owned by Dutch nationals Rudi Dekkers and Arne Kruithof to eight. Rudi Dekkers’ figure alone stands at five . . . and counting. Hilliard [Dekkers’ partner] was asked about his business associations with persons of dubious repute, like Rudi Dekkers. One of Hilliard’s prized Lear jets was confiscated from him by the DEA after having been found with 43 pounds of heroin aboard.” (“Four More 9/11 Terrorists Linked to Rudi Dekker’s Flight School” by Daniel Hopsicker; 2/5/2003; p. 2; accessed at his important website www.madcowprod.com .)
..."
Rudi Dekkers - Bernhard 
11.04.2004 23:35

Venice, Florida black-ops air base:
a key to high-level satanists behind 9/11
 http://www.econcrisis.homestead.com/SFAN_VeniceFLKey911Satanists.html

"...
The latest evidence that its connections to 9/11 are being covered up at the highest levels, is that Rudi Dekkers, the owner-manager of one of the patsy factories emerged unscathed from an uninvestigated plane crash after 9/11, is being deported to the Netherlands. This country, which along with England and other countries in the region, became the "Venice of the north" when new shipping routes were discovered and the original Venice lost its strategic significance, was ruled after WWII by Prince Bernhard, a "former" member of the Nazi SS. According to The Nazi Roots of the House of Windsor [3], Bernhard signed his letter of resignation to Adolf Hitler, "Heil Hitler!''
..."

meer info Arne Kruithof en Rudi Dekkers 
12.04.2004 00:04

 http://www.madcowprod.com/issue24.html
"...
Kruithof is expected to testify at Congressional Hearings at some point both about his relationship with Rudi Dekkers--the other Dutch national flight school owner at the Venice Airport--and partner Pascal Schreier, a German national living in Munich.
..."

Pascal Schreier?

"...
Their company, Aviation Aspirations, (Kruithof is VP) provides both financial assistance and a "Mentor Programme."

Schreier recruited students in, among other places, Hamburg. The company's motto, somewhat ironically, is: "Better training because we care."
...

-------------------------

Florida Flight Training Center
 http://www.fftc.info/employees.asp

-------------------------

Widersprüche zum 11. September
Unanswered Questions – Demanding Answers
 http://www.hintergrund.de/wichtige-zeugen.html

"...
6. To Rudi Dekkers and Arne Kruithof, manager-owners of flight schools in Venice, Florida where the alleged 9/11 pilots Atta, Alshehhi and Jarrah trained starting in the summer of 2000 (or earlier):

Were the two of you, who purchased your flight schools less than a year before the terrorists arrived, operating as cut-outs for a clandestine operation? NOTE: In July 2000, the same month that the terrorists are said to have arrived, the real owner of Dekkers's Huffman Aviation, Wally Hilliard, had one of his planes (on a regular flight) impounded with 42 kilos of heroin on board.
..."

------------------------

 http://www.freedomdomain.com/Templemount/10_19a.html

"...
"Rudi’s greedy, and when you’re greedy you can be used for something," a Special Operations Commando leader from the nearby McDill Air Force Base told us.

"I've always had some suspicions about the way he breezed into town out of nowhere," said one observer at the Venice Airport. "Just too many odd little things. For example, he has absolutely no aviation background as far as anyone can tell. And he evidently had no use for, nor knowledge of, FAA rules and regs."
..."
Zie verder het artikel.

Kapers 9-11 opzet NL-dienst &DL-Aristocratie? 
Verat+Berat/Be Rhad=Bernhard - 12.04.2004 16:48

STRANGER THAN FICTION
AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF 9-11 AND THE WAR ON TERRORISM
 http://www.refuse-resist.com/content/wtc/STRANGER%20THAN%20FICTION%20-%20AN%20INDEPENDENT%20INVESTIGATION%20OF%209-11.php

"...
LEFT: BIN LADEN: " I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ATTACKS."
RIGHT: NETANYAHU: "ATTACKS ARE GOOD FOR US-ISRAEL RELATIONS."

WHO WAS REALLY FLYING THOSE PLANES ON 9-11?

Hours after the 9-11 attacks, authorities began to find clues conveniently left for them to stumble upon. The Boston Globe reported that a copy of the Koran, instructions on how to fly a commercial airplane and a fuel consumption calculator were found in a pair of bags meant for one of the hijacked flights that left from Logan.

Authorities also received a "tip" about a suspicious white car left behind at Boston's Logan Airport. An Arabic-language flight training manual was found inside the car.

How fortunate for investigators that the hijackers "forgot" to take their Koran and Arab flight manuals with them! Within a few days, all "19 hijackers" were "identified" and their faces were plastered all over our television screens.

Then, like a script from a corny "B" spy movie, the official story gets even more ridiculous. The passport of the supposed "ringleader" Mohammed Atta, somehow managed to survive the explosion, inferno, and smoldering collapse to be oh-so-conveniently "found" just a few blocks away from the World Trade Center!

It is obvious that this "evidence" was planted by individuals wishing to direct the blame towards Osama Bin Laden. How is it possible that Arab students who had never flown an airplane could take a simulator course and then fly jumbo jets with the skill and precision of "top-gun" pilots? It is not possible and the fact is, the true identities of the 9-11 hijackers remains a mystery. In the days following the disclosure of the "hijackers" names and faces, no less than 7 of the Arab individuals named came forward to protest their obvious innocence.

That's right! Seven of the nineteen "hijackers" are alive and well. They were victims of identity theft, some of whom had had their passports stolen. They were interviewed by several news organizations including the Telegraph of England. Here’s an excerpt from David Harrison’s Telegraph story entitled:

Revealed: The Men With Stolen Identities:
..."

Zo!
En veel sporen gaan dus naar Nederland en Duitsland.

1)
Elders in deze thread worden de mogelijke kapers in verband gebracht met de Duitse Aristocratie, familie of zo.
Zullen we dan maar op dat spoor verdergaan?

2)
Het andere spoor is dat een of andere geheime dienst binnen de Nederlandse overheid er voor gezorgd heeft dat: De fraudeurs van die Nederlands terroristische drugshandel en witwas 'vlieg'school in Florida niet vervolgd worden en er geen beslag op die verduisterde 7 miljoen gelegd wordt.

3) Is er misschien heel toevallig een overlap tussen punt 1 en 2? M.a.w.: een geheime dienst die met Duitse Aristocratie en/of high society in verbinding staat, binnen de NLse overheid daartoe bezig is geweest?
Prins Bernhard bijvoorbeeld?
Uiteraard alleen als een spil in het web van o.a. Bilderberg, CIA, NSA, Mosad, Windsor, etc.

Voor wie zich nog niet in deze materie verdiept heeft, wellicht ongeloofwaardig, daarom de volgende toelichting: Bernhard wordt door vele mensen die in verband met inlichtingendiensten staan, nationaal en internationaal, genoemd als respectiefelijk "de machtigste man van Nederland" en "he is internationally a very powerfull man".
gerelateerd artikel met Duitse connecties 
Ali Bin Fabel - 12.04.2004 17:03

Waarom aanslagen 9-11 een opzetje waren:
Fabel Ali Bin Laden
 http://www.indymedia.nl/nl/2004/04/18116.shtml

Met veel discussie over Duitse (hogere) connecties.
DE connecties met o.a. Duitse elite 
Saod Arab - 13.04.2004 00:48

O.K. dan; ik herhaal dan maar even deze zinsnede van eerder in dit verhaal:

"...The article stresses the structural similarity of Atta’s German associates with the background of Andreas Strassmeir, alleged mastermind of the Oklahoma City bombing and associate of Timothy McVeigh. “ . . . Strassmeir’s father was once a top aide to German Chancellor Helmut Kohl; Atta’s German friends are all children of the German elite. ..."

Zie voor verder onderzoek met name de andere punten van:

 http://www.spitfirelist.com/f405.html

Er wordt naar iets van IBID3 verwezen als bronvermelding van een van de belangrijke stukken, heb deze nog niet kunnen achterhalen voor meer info.

----------------------

En dan nog die (familie van Robert?) Mueller die door Kissinger naar de VS is overgehaald om met andere SS-ers de CIA op te zetten:

The Mueller File
 http://www.spitfirelist.com/f283.html

Dit sluit perfect aan bij de eerdere verwijzingen naar o.a. Zuid-Amerika:

The Bormann Organization;
link Bush-Hitler, zuid-Amerika enz. enz.:
 http://www.spitfirelist.com/f305.html

Waar haalt die man het allemaal vandaan?
Dit verzin je toch niet allemaal bij elkaar?
Zie ENKELE van de overzichtspagina's:
 http://spitfirelist.com/ftr.html
 
13.04.2004 19:21

MOHAMED ATTA WORKED FOR ELITE U.S.—GERMAN
GOVERNMENT EXCHANGE PROGRAM
 http://www.madcowprod.com/issue42.html

"...
For at least four years while living in Hamburg during the 1990’s terrorist ringleader Mohamed Atta was part of a 'joint venture' between the U.S. and German Governments, the MadCowMorningNews has learned, an elite international “exchange” program run by a little-known private organization with close ties to powerful American political figures like David Rockefeller and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
...
Moreover Atta’s financial relationship with the U.S.—German government effort may even extend back to his initial move from Egypt to Germany in 1992, after being “recruited” in Cairo by a mysterious German couple dubbed the “hijacker’s sponsors” in a recent news account in the Chicago Tribune.
...
News that Mohamed Atta had been on the payroll of the elite international program surfaced in a curious way just a month after the 9/11 attack: a brief seven-line report by German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on Oct. 18, 2001, under the headline “ATTA WAS TUTOR FOR SCHOLARSHIP HOLDERS.”

The story quoted spokesmen for “Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft,” described as a “German international further education organisation,” as having admitted paying Hamburg cadre principal Atta as a “scholarship holder” and “tutor,” between 1995 and 1997.

But what makes the story curious is that the German paper concealed the shocking implications of their story, that Mohamed Atta had been on the payroll of a joint U.S.—German government program, through the simple expedient of neglecting to mention that the “Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft” was merely a private entity set up to administer the "exchange" initiative of the two governments.

The U.S. end of the program is run out of an address at United Nations Plaza in New York by CDS International. The letters stand for Carl Duisberg Society, also the name of its German counterpart in Cologne, the Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft. Both are named for Carl Duisberg, a German chemist and industrialist who headed the Bayer Corporation during the 1920’s.

The list of elite power brokers backing CDS International ranges from the aforementioned Kissinger and Rockefeller to former President Bill Clinton and other Democratic heavyweights like former First Lady Hillary Clinton and Clinton White House adviser Ira Magaziner.
...
Having big juice in high places may also explain more equally-curious omissions in a second story about Mohamed Atta’s time in Germany, which appeared recently in the March 7,2003 Chicago Tribune, under the headline “9/11 haunts hijacker's sponsors; German couple talks of living with pilot Atta.”

The article describes the 1992 meeting in Cairo between Atta and a German couple running an "international student exchange program," a meeting which the Tribune says led Atta to move to Hamburg.

During a visit to the Egyptian capital in fall 1991, the Tribune reported, the German couple had stayed with friends who knew Atta's father, a Cairo lawyer, and his father's friends had then introduced the German couple to Atta.
...
Why did this German couple running an international exchange program leap at the opportunity to help a young man not considered promising enough to gain entrance to graduate school in Cairo, and offer him a place to live at their house?
..."



 
13.04.2004 19:35

Dus "Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft" ongeveer opgericht in de tijd van "Thule Gesellschaft" welke de partij van Hitler oprichtte en waarvan de leden op hoge posities zaten.

Even wat rechercheren daarop:

 http://www.cdg.de/indexv.htm

"Seit der Gründung der Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft 1949 ..."

Dus ietsje later; de vergelijking met Thule Gesellschaft was in dat jaar kennelijk echter geen belemmering.
Nou ja; gesellschaft is een doodnormaal Duist woord; hoeft niets te betekenen.

Oeps... duidelijke vrijmetselarij, vandaar die naam gesellschaft:

"Training für die Reformen in Mittel und Osteuropa
...
die einst sozialistischen Länder bei ihren wirtschaftlichen und gesellschaftlichen Transformationsprozessen zu unterstützen. Schwerpunkte der Trainingskooperationen mit den Reformstaaten sind Rußland, die Ukraine, die EU-Beitrittsländer und die mittelasiatischen Republiken der GUS.
...
Neben den Trainingsmaßnahmen für Fach- und Führungskräfte aus den Reformstaaten Mittel- und Osteuropas bietet die CDG auch Programme an, die Aufenthalte für Deutsche in dieser Region fördern:

Praxissemester im Ausland
Hermann-Strenger-Stiftung
Weiterbildung in besonderen Fachgebieten
Internationaler Fachkräfteaustausch in der beruflichen Bildung (IFKA)
Berufsbildungswissenschaftleraustausch (BBWA)
EU-Studienbesuchsprogramm für Fachleute der Berufsbildung (EUS)
LEONARDO DA VINCI: Programm für Ausbilder und Berufsbildungsexperten
LEONARDO DA VINCI: Austausch von Auszubildenden und jungen Arbeitnehmern
SOKRATES/COMENIUS 1.2:- Das Fremdsprachenprojekt
SOKRATES/COMENIUS2.2.c:Aus -und Weiterbildung des Schulpersonals
SOKRATES/GRUNDTVIG 3: Fortbildung für Beschäftigte in der Erwachsenenbildung
SOKRATES/COMENIUS & GRUNDTVIG - Katalog
..."

Ja en dat Socrates en Leonardo da Vinci heeft hier toevallig niets met vrijmetselarij te maken!
Was het niet Leonardo da Vinci van wie de technieken afkomstig zijn om het lage volk een rad voor de ogen te draaien door high society? Iets van die strekking; wie helpt mij met het excate verhaal?

Wel weer genoeg voor vandaag: vrijmetselarij.

Verder onderzoek volgt.

Carl Duisberg en de vergassing van Joden 
13.04.2004 20:38

 http://www.mindspring.com/~bayerly/publications/october30,1996bayercorporation.htm

1891 - Bayer buys property near Cologne, on the east bank of the
Rhine. It was formerly the property of a firm, D. C. Leverkus
& Sons. Later to become Leverkusen when a massive new and
state-of-the art plant is constructed by Carl Duisberg and Bayer.

1904 - Carl Duisberg and Bayer form the Triple Association or
"Dreibund" with B.A.S.F. and Agfa in response to Hoechst and
Casella forming an "Interessengemeinschaft" also known as an
I.G. or a community of interests where Board of Directors seats
are exchanged and companies involved consult with one another
regarding all relevant business.

1926 - I..G Farben formed from Bayer, BASF, Hoechst and 5 other
smaller companies. Carl Duisberg from Bayer is elected chairman
of the I.G. Farben supervisory board, retiring from an active
management role. Carl Bosch from BASF is elected the chairman
of the managing board.

February 20, 1933 - Secret meeting at the home of Hermann
Goering for German industrialists who are concerned about the Communists gaining more power. Georg von Schnitzler, member of the managing board for I.G. Farben announces his support and a pledge of 400,000 DM to the Nazi party for the upcoming March 5 election, the largest single donation to the Nazi Party.

1942-1945 - I.G. Auschwitz in operation as a slave labor facility
for I.G. Farben.

En nu hebben we lieflijke Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft, de zogenaamde "white knights" onder de vrijmetselarij, genoemd naar deze massamoordenaar?????????????????????????????????
Daar zou elke welgemeende 'white knight' toch onmiddelijk voor bednaken, om daarmee geassocieerd te worden?
Bernhard-Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft/IG Farben 
Fatwah Oranje - 22.04.2004 04:26

 http://www.ritualabuse.net/illuminati.htm
(hierin vind je de green dragon; boot van Beatrix heet de Groene Draak en ligt naast die van Bruinsma; verder zijn de banden met Japanse high society historisch, neem bijv. Hirohito en Oranje)
...
"In Berlin, Haushofer had founded the Luminous Lodge or the Vril Society. The Lodge's objective was to explore the origins of the Aryan race and to perform exercises in concentration to awaken the forces of 'Vril'. Haushofer was a student of the Russian magician and metaphysician Gregor Ivanovich Gurdyev (George Gurdjieff). Both Gurdjeiff and Haushofer maintained that they had contacts with secret Tibetan lodges that possessed the secret of the 'Superman'. The Lodge included Hitler, Aalfred Rosenberg, Himmler, Göring, and Hitler's subsequent personal physician Dr. Morell. It is also known that Aleister
Crowley and Gurdjieff sought contact with Hitler. Hitler's unusual powers of suggestion become more understandable if one keeps in mind that he had access to the 'secret' psychological techniques of the esoteric lodges. Haushofer taught him the techniques of Gurdjieff which, in turn, were based on the teachings of the Sufis and the Tibetan lamas-
and familiarized him with the Zen teaching of the Japanese Society of the Green Dragon."
- Wulf Schwartzwaller, The Unknown Hitler
...
During World War II "most of the concentration camp factories were operated by the giant German chemical combine, I. G. Farben. In fact, one of Farben's subsidiaries manufactured the poison gas used in concentration camp gas chambers. A remarkable book, The Crime and Punishment of I. G. Farben , by Joseph Borkin, documents how the Farben companies, in cooperation with the Nazi SS, ran the concentration camps and adjacent factories as a business enterprise."
...
"Prince Bernhard of the House of Orange in the Netherlands had been a member of the SS before the war, followed by a stint as an employee of I. G. Farben. He then married into the House of Orange and assumed his position as chairman of Shell Oil."
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden
..."

BINGO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hier hebben we de connectie tussen Carl Duisberg (+Gesellschaft), de oprichter van IG Farben, financier van Hitler en vergasser van de Joden MET PRINS BERNHARD

Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft bracht ook de ringleider Mohammed Atta over!

het artikel gaat nog even verder over Orange:

"...
Three centuries ago, "a powerful group of Englishmen and Scots had formed a Protestant political faction in England known as the Whigs. The Whigs were actually headquartered in Holland which...was under the monarchy of the House of Orange. From their Dutch base, the Whigs launched the Glorious Revolution of 1688 and quickly unseated James II in a bloodless coup. The Whigs then placed James II's son-in-law, William III of Orange, on the British throne. The House of Orange now reigned over both Holland and England, as well as over their original German homeland."

"William II is reported to have been a Freemason. In fact, in 1688, a militant secret society was formed to support William II. It was called the Order of Orange after William II's family, and it patterned itself after Freemasonry. The Orange Order was anti-Catholic and its purpose was to ensure that Protestantism remained the dominant Christian religion of England."
...

In 1949 werden vrijwel gelijktijdig het Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft en de Bilderberg Groep opgericht naar analogie van het Thule Gesellschaft die Hitlers partij oprichtte en waarvan de leden in zijn regering en andere hoge posten zaten.
Bij de Thule Gesellschaft gebeurde dat in hotel Four Seisons (vier seizoenen; solarwheel; swastika).
De Scottisch Masonry zit tegenwoordig in de Four Seisons hotel in Houston.
Bilderberg groiup werd wijselijk geen Gesellschaft genoemd, maar tevens in een hotelketen opgericht, Bilderberg Hotels. En Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft... verder info volgt.
Met deze informatie is er de rechtstreekse link tussen Bernhard en IG Farben, oftewel het Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft. dat ringleider Mohammed Atta overbracht.

Zie bovenstaande info over de Nederlandse betrokkenheid bij de aanslagen van 9-11 en dat het Bernhard is die de machtigste man in Nederland is en de meest waarschijnlijke persoon om via zijn geheime dienst de Nederlandse regering en ministerie af te laten zien van het beslag laten leggen op de 7 miljoen en de vliegtuigschool, waar een frauderende Nederlander, dus met steun van de NL-overheid, de vliegtuigkapers opleidde.
Oranje invasie: Green Dragon operatief in GB 
O' Killroy - 22.04.2004 04:47

Iets dat -zeker in samenhang met de Oranje invasie in Engeland kort daarvoor- "Green Dragon" society dichter naar Nederland brengt:

 http://64.106.152.60/~admin290/anti-federalist/files/wakeup.txt

"... But in 1752, an 'irregular' lodge, without an
official warrant, was found to be operating at another
tavern, the Green Dragon, renamed Freemasons' Hall in
1764. When the scandalised members of St John's
complained, the 'irregular' lodge duly applied for a
warrant of its own, not from the Grand Lodge of
England, however, but from Grand Lodge of Scotland,
which offered higher degrees. The warrant was not
forthcoming until 1756, [At the outbreak of the "French
and Indian" War, ed.] when British troops and their
regimental field lodges, chartered by both Irish and
Scottish Grand Lodge, began to arrive in America.
..."

Dat komt ook dichtbij de zogenaamde onafhankelijkheid van Amerika, ben het jaar even kwijt.
Toen werd Amerika via een omweg opnieuw afhankelijk gemaakt, doordat de Federal Reserve eigendom is van enkele vrijmetselaar families, waravan sommige sporen via J.P. Morgan naar het Britse Koningshuis lijken te gaan, precieser: naar de vermelde Bank of England, waar Morgan lange tijd werkte cq zijn opleiding kreeg.
Daarover meld het artikel dit:

"...
Although the Stuarts later regained (ever so briefly) the Crown under James II, and once again under Queen Anne (an
even shorter tenure), the Glorious Revolution of 1688,
which put William, Duke of Orange on the throne,
demonstrated that the Dutch (Jewish) banking houses
were securing their influence over the English Crown.

Not surprisingly, the House of Orange were Dutch, and
their investiture coincided with the creation of the
Bank of England in 1694.
..."
nog meer oranje & green dragon 
oranje+groen =bruine schijt - 22.04.2004 04:57

Nog meer info; wie kan de link leggen; Hertz, Caroll?

 http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Conspiracy/A-Albionic/pro-cath

Hertz, Solange. Title: The Star-Spangled Heresy
Subtitle: Americanism--How the Catholic Church in America Became the AmericanCatholic Church
"...
In the Spring 1988 Project we review Hertz' The Triumph of the Green Dragon which provided fascinating information on the role of the Carroll (founders of Georgetown University) in the founding of America, especially their compromises with Masonic founders of America. Finally, Hertz has organized his ideas into full length book.
..."

"Book "Philip II"
...
This massive tome explains the crucial Elizabethan period from the point-of-view of the Catholic Emperor of Austria and Spain.
Especially good on the Judeo/Masonic conspiracy and the
ultra-conspiratorial role of Elizabeth I's advisor William Cecil. Also valuable history of the Dutch, Judeo-Masonic-Protestant revolt against Catholic rule that lead to the rise of the House of Orange.
..."

green dragon 
groentje - 22.04.2004 05:04

 http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Green%20Dragon
"...to the time of the famous Green Dragon of Atlantis..."

The Green Dragon Tavern - For the Sons of Liberty
 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/4116/

Moet nu stoppen, shop gaat sluiten; er is nog wat meer te vinden onder "green dragon" met netherlands society en dergelijk zoekwoorden.
supplements
> indymedia.nl > search > archive > help > join > publish news > open newswire > disclaimer > chat
DISCLAIMER: Indymedia NL uses the 'open posting' principle to promote freedom of speech. The news (text, images, audio and video) posted in the open newswire of Indymedia NL remains the property of the author who posted it. The views in these postings do not necesseraly reflect the views of the editorial team of Indymedia NL. Furthermore, it is not always possible to guarantee the accuracy of the postings.