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BBC AIRS ISRAELI TORTURE CONNECTION TO IRAQ
DE PAUS - 04.07.2004 13:01

Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:00 pm Post subject: BREAKING NEWS: BBC AIRS ISRAELI TORTURE CONNECTION TO IRAQ


Graag Doorzenden!


Graag Doorzenden!



Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:00 pm Post subject: BREAKING NEWS: BBC AIRS ISRAELI TORTURE CONNECTION TO IRAQ

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

You can hear Jonathan Davis' interview with the BBC via the link which you can scroll down to at the following URL:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/zmonday_20040628.shtml

General Janis Karpinski and Wayne Madsen conveyed the Israeli connection to the interrogations in Iraq (  http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen05102004.html ) in the BBC 4 radio segment this morning which one can
listen to on their computer via the following URL:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/

General Janis Karpinski's segment will be archived under July 3rd, 2004 at the
following URL (after today) if you don't pick up this email until Monday:


 http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/listenagain_archive.shtml

A full transcript of General Karpinski's interview (which mentioned an Israeli
connection to the interrogations in Iraq and how Rumsfeld conveyed instructions
for the torture/abuse at Abu Ghraib) for 'The Signal' is now linked at the
following URL:

 http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/signal/iraq/


Abu Ghraib Prison Torture Scandal Goes to the Highest Level:

 http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=16336


James Bamford's New Book ('A Pretext for War') on the Neocon Warmongers:


 http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=16388



Graag Doorzenden!

 

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Parool 
link - 05.07.2004 15:33

AMSTERDAM - Er werkte tenminste één Israëliër als ondervrager in een Iraakse gevangenis die door de Amerikanen werd gecontroleerd. Dat zegt de Amerikaanse brigade-generaal Janis Karpinski. Het is de tweede keer dat gewag wordt gemaakt van Israëliërs in Irak.

zo begint het verhaal op de website van het parool



Website: http://www.parool.nl/nieuws/2004/JUL/05/buit1.html
 
Kill all the Jews! 
nessie - 07.07.2004 03:55

(1.) My name isn’t nessie.

(2.) But that has nothing to do with whether I can prove it. I can’t prove it. So what? That, doesn’t mean it’s not true. Personally, I don’t care whether you believe me or not. If you don’t believe me, then you’re not who I’m talking to. I’m talking people smart enough to know that when something that is inconsistent with the bulk of my writing comes signed with my name, it’s a forgery. Anybody who’s not smart enough to grasp that, wouldn’t understand what I was saying, anyway.

(3.) Besides, who it was that wrote something is irrelevant. Only content counts. If it’s true, it doesn’t matter who says it, or why. The truth is the truth, period.

(4.) Later, when you encounter something with my name on it, posted somewhere else on the internet, consider that it may be a forgery. If it is consistent with what you know I have actually written, then I wrote it. If it is not consistent, then it’s a forgery. If you can’t tell the difference, you’re too stupid to understand what I’m saying, anyway, so don’t waste time trying.



E-Mail: nessie@sfbg.com
nu.nl 
L.H. Oswald - 07.07.2004 09:43

Een Australische terreurverdachte die al twee jaar vastzit op de Amerikaanse basis Guantanamo Bay, is door de Verenigde Staten een halfjaar lang voor ondervraging vastgehouden in Egypte. De 48-jarige Mahdouh Habib werd daar zo erg gemarteld dat hij er bijna aan overleed.
Mazen Dana werd herkend door israeliers 
DE PAUS - 07.07.2004 10:10


Mazen dana is op 18 augustus door israeliers herkend , op behoorlijke afstand, toen hij voor abu graib aan het filmen was in zijn functie als camaraman voor reuetrs en in koele bloede afgeslacht op klaarlichte dag.
Ik zei het meteen.





Mazen Dana: In his Own Words
Monday, August 18th, 2003
CPJ
[AIC's note: Mazen Dana, a veteran Palestinian television cameraman for Reuters was shot dead in Baghdad on Sunday, August 18, while filming outside the city's Abu Ghraib prison.]

 http://www4.alternativenews.org/display.php?id=3323
yet another forgery 
heard it before - 11.02.2005 18:54

>Kill all the Jews!
>nessie - 07.07.2004 03:55

Once again they demonstrate how well they know that truth is not their friend.

For more about forgeries on Indymedia, see:

 http://www.sfimc.net/news/2002/12/1555696_comment.php#1692248

(snip)

Sometimes they take something that an anti-Zionist has written, subtly alter it’s meaning by changing a few words, and post it under the name of the original author.

(snip)



See also:

 http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2005/01/1709327_comment.php
pathological liar nessie 
truthteller - 23.05.2005 01:40

These are the *exact* words from the truly deeply disturbed mind of nessie, gathered from the various IMC's that he spams, and *not one single word* has been changed.

----------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------

Those who are new around here should be aware that certain people have been forging my name to posts I didn’t write, in a pathetic attempt to discredit me. This is called “black propaganda,” and has a long, rich history.

See:

 http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/07/138397_comment.php#138482

The way to tell if I actually wrote something is simple. If it sounds like something I wouldn’t say, it wasn’t.

To see what I really say, click here:
 http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/
 http://www.transbay.net/~nessie/
 http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/09/149993_comment.php#150095

(snip)

(1.) My name isn’t nessie.

(2.) But that has nothing to do with whether I can prove it. I can’t prove it. So what? That, doesn’t mean it’s not true. Personally, I don’t care whether you believe me or not. If you don’t believe me, then you’re not who I’m talking to. I’m talking people smart enough to know that when something that is inconsistent with the bulk of my writing comes signed with my name, it’s a forgery. Anybody who’s not smart enough to grasp that, wouldn’t understand what I was saying, anyway.

(3.) Besides, who it was that wrote something is irrelevant. Only content counts. If it’s true, it doesn’t matter who says it, or why. The truth is the truth, period.

(4.) Later, when you encounter something with my name on it, posted somewhere else on the internet, consider that it may be a forgery. If it is consistent with what you know I have actually written, then I wrote it. If it is not consistent, then it’s a forgery. If you can’t tell the difference, you’re too stupid to understand what I’m saying, anyway, so don’t waste time trying.

(snip)

It's not about the writing. It's about the name.

(snip)

But remember, if only the content counts, and if it's true, and if it doesn't matter who says it or why, then is it really a forgery? Educate yourself. Start today.

(snip)

My signature can only be trusted here:

 http://sf.indymedia.org/

here:

 http://www.transbay.net/~nessie/

and most of here:

 http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/

(snip)

 http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/01/1671143_comment.php

"how do we know 'one opinion' or anyone else . . . is who they say they are"
by nessie Saturday January 10, 2004 at 10:43 AM

You don't. Therefore, people should be judged on the basis of their actions, not their word. Talk’s cheap. Only actions count.

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