Attack on Exarchia police station 13-12-2013

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Exarchia police station in Athens was severely attacked around 8pm with Molotov cocktails and stones. Riot, DIAS and DELTA (on motorbikes) police units performed an extensive sweep of the Exarchia area detaining c.a. 70-80 bystanders, including several immigrants and an underage refugee. The detainees were transferred to Athens police HQ. There has been issued a special warning to police authorities regarding the underage refugee, who is a victim of torture. The cops answered in a provocable manner that they will prevent him from standing near any windows [note: so he would not commit a suicide. However, a number of immigrants have "committed suicides" in police stations in Greece]. The police detained individuals who happened to be hanging out at the Navarinou park, close by the Exarchia police station.

https://resistra.espivblogs.net/2013/12/attack-on-exarhia-police-station...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNts9a-RaVk


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>Exarchia police station in Athens was severely attacked around 8pm with Molotov cocktails and stones. Riot, DIAS and DELTA (on motorbikes) police units performed an extensive sweep of the Exarchia area detaining c.a. 70-80 bystanders, including several immigrants and an underage refugee.<

Hm, sounds like not an entirely welcome result, doesn't it?

welcome to reality then

Not a welcome result, no. But bear in mind that those who perpetrate the retaliative sweep (the cops and authorities) are entirely responsible for their own acts and their own tactics. Let's not fall too easily in the pitfall of accusing the mollie-throwers of causing yet another police-sweep. Although I do not read greek and have little contacts with greek comrades, I can imagine quite easily that those throwing the mollies actually hope that the stupid police-sweep will help people to realize that next time, they'd better participate in the pro-active actions against cops than just stand and watch (not saying this is my personal opinion, but I'm sure there are people wanting to defend that stand). Actually I even believe that some of the victims of that retaliative police-sweep don't care so much about the sweep, because it was such a joy seeing the copshop attacked.

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>But bear in mind that those who perpetrate the retaliative sweep (the cops and authorities) are entirely responsible for their own acts and their own tactics.<

No, this is where I beg to vehemently disagree.

I don't believe in any avant-guardism, and I believe that if we are to fight for a world of autonomy and self-empowerment and all such lofty aims, we are to take responsibility for our actions, at all times. And, similarly, to be willing to critically weigh and examine the effectiveness of our tactics and strategies. Nor then am I a believer in militancy-for-the-sake-of-militancy.

Look, I cannot judge some single action in Greece, off-hand; what I was reacting to was a posting, seemingly meant to raise our uncritical sympathy (as readers, in the Netherlands) with "militancy," whilst mentioning in the same breath and without any apparent sense of irony what look to be some severe and adverse effects of that action. What are we to tell the victims? Sorry, bro, sis, but that's revolution for you (and sod your bourgeois self if that ain't good enough for ya)? Have they been asked for their opinion on or made to participate in the proceedings? Or do we feel it is our right to stuff our militancy down people's throats -- or else, presumably?

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razzia_van_Putten

Hm, sounds like not an entirely welcome result, doesn´t it?

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